Talk:Portal:Genealogy

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Proposal to move genealogy advice outside this wiki

I think we should do this, but I don't think we have found the right solution yet. Damn, I thought I had... --DuncanNZ 09:33, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

Reasons for the move

  • Credibility is improved by keeping advice seperate from a specific software solution
  • The GRAMPS wiki is relatively small and presumably gets few non-GRAMPS users visiting
  • Supporting the best existing sites about genealogy reduces duplication of effort
  • Involvement in more active (and diverse) websites increases the potential for collaboration and original solutions and thoughts

Current problems with moving

  • There are no good multilingual sites
  • Internal inks in this site need to be preserved (so don't actually delete a page, leave a link to the new location)

Wishlist for genealogy advice website

(Please sign you wishes so we can discuss them on the email lists)

  • Fully multi-lingual (Jerome), --DuncanNZ 09:33, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
  • The site must use a free license (free to use, modify and distribute) --DuncanNZ 09:33, 16 October 2008 (EDT) (help.ubuntu.com/community uses BY-SA )
  • Consensus among wiki editors on which site to use, so we can endorse it for readers as our preferred choice. --DuncanNZ 09:33, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Site should aggregate from other sites' content, to avoid duplication (what's this called?) --DuncanNZ 09:33, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

Suitable licenses

Unsuitable licenses

  • Creative Commons Licenses, version 2.0 or 2.5 (Debian, August 2008)
  • Creative Commons BY-NC-SA, preventing commercial use is not 'free' by the Debian definition

Comparison of potential websites

The column 'Redistributable with Debian?' is there because Debian has the most restrictive policy on including documentation.

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Website License Positive points Negative points Redistributable with Debian?
Familypedia GFDL Has over 24,400 articles (and about 60,000 other pages) with advanced use of categories and templates; accepts any language Genealogy advice and records share the same wiki Yes without 'invariant text'
WeRelate.org GFDL (text) Claim 2,000,000 entries. By the registered charity Foundation for On-Line Genealogy Genealogy advice and records share the same wiki Yes without 'invariant text'
FamilySearch BY-NC-SA FamilySearch Wiki is [only] about genealogical research advice.(ref) BY-NC-SA means no commercial use. No
GenealogyWiki.org A Creative Commons license, but the license link is dead. I've written to him. Is only for genealogy information, not articles and thoughts. Is only for genealogy information, not articles and thoughts. ?
GeneaWiki BY-NC-SA + in french, very active - only in french No
Genealogy Wikibook GFDL Hierarchic book structure improves navigation Not very active Yes without 'invariant text'
TEMPLATE[url name] [url license] ? ? ?

Archive

(Move old content down here if it should be kept for reference)

(Bob's question was answered three months ago. Text deleted. --DuncanNZ 09:14, 16 October 2008 (EDT))