Talk:5.1 Addons

Addons missing

There appear to be AddOns missing from the Wiki‎ User:Bamaustin(talk 23:31, 11 November 2019)

Just spotted this list! I made my own along with other Gramps related stuff see my user page for links to the two subpages. --Gioto (talk) 06:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Not listed

The items that follow are listed in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gramps-project/addons/master/gramps51

Type	Name	Description	Download
Exporter	JSON Export [1][2]	This is a JSON export	JSON.addon.tgz
Importer	JSON Import	This is a JSON import	JSON.addon.tgz
Exporter	Prolog Export [3][4]	Exports data into a Prolog fact format. Data is in Unicode (utf-8)	ExportProlog.addon.tgz
Gramplet	Extended Family Attributes [5]	Gramplet showing the attributes of a family	ExtendedAttributes.addon.tgz
Gramplet	Extended Person Attributes [6]	Gramplet showing the attributes of a person	ExtendedAttributes.addon.tgz
Gramplet	Family Overview [7]	Gramplet showing an overview of events for a family	Overview.addon.tgz
Gramplet	Person Overview [8]	Gramplet showing an overview of events for a person	Overview.addon.tgz
Plugin lib	Restart where you were last working[9]	This addon causes Gramps to restart on the same view and object where Gramps was previously closed. It adds no new menus or Gramplets, but allows the last six objects visited to be found via the \'Go\' menu.	RestoreHist.addon.tgz
Quickreport	Biography	Display a text biography	BiographyQuickview.addon.tgz
Report	AncestorFill [10][11][12]	Report on the filling of the tree menu "Reports/Text Reports/AncestorFill Report"	AncestorFill.addon.tgz
Report	Detailed Descendant Report With All Images	Produces a detailed descendant report with all images and optional todo list.	DetDescendantReport-images.addon.tgz
Tool	Check Associations data [13]	Will check the data on Association for people. The tool should be visible from the menu Tools -> Utilies -> Check Associations data... brinds up the ‎Associations state tool dialog.	AssociationsTool.addon.tgz
Rule	Rule_expansions	Filter Rules Pack 1	FilterRules.addon.tgz
Rule	Rule_expansions	Filter Rules Pack 2	FilterRules2.addon.tgz

Listed in git but not wiki

The items that follow are listed in the GIT library but not in the Wiki

https://github.com/gramps-project/addons/tree/master/gramps51/download

Description	Download
	CheckPlaceTitles.addon.tgz
	DetId.addon.tgz
	FaceDetection.addon.tgz
Gramplet to get places from the GOV database	GetGOV_GEPS045.addon.tgz
	lxml.addon.tgz
	PhpGedView.addon.tgz
	Query.addon.tgz
	RebuildTypes.addon.tgz
	SourceIndex.addon.tgz
	SourceReferences.addon.tgz Display references for a Source
	SurnameMappingGramplet.addon.tgz
	WordleGramplet.addon.tgz

Newly added but not on wiki

• Family Relationship Tool Families - when the Relationships of a long list of named fathers and mothers are shown as "Unknown", to change all the "Unknown" to "Married" as a batch.

Bare urls - let's hide them?

Do we really need a column that shows the name of the download that possibly infrequently used (do we have statistics?) or can we just show a download icon? I'll just point you to this Wikipedia:Bare_URLs for reasons. --Gioto (talk) 06:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

The download column is often useful because of the collaborative nature of Gramps. People tweaking Gramplets often need to get code snippets when building their own experiments or to restore original code when a tweak goes astray. (Removing & restoring via Plugin Manager is a more radical step.)

Since the name of the add-on and the code need not bear resemblance to one another, it is easier to find the right example code from here than surfing the User plugins folder or GitHub.

GitHub might be the most appropriate tool for programmers managing code but setting up a Forking environment has an intimidating learning curve. This lets people dip a toe in coding instead of throwing them in the deep end.

Bamaustin (talk) 07:25, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, understood keep the column; the next part of my question is that instead of showing an unfriendly bare URL to users lets hide the link behind an icon. If no one opposes that's what I'll do. --Gioto (talk) 23:27, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

That should be ok, but consider that a user seeing the download icon may just do that and wonder what to do next, the icon should also not have a word on it due to translations so maybe a download icon that has an arrow pointing down in black and white? The bare url in this case discourages non technical people for downloading manually I believe. Thanks for the improvements you've both made. --Sam888 (talk) 00:13, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Right, didn't think about that, I'll test icon on this page if I find a suitable one that's not appealing to normal user how about a cogwheel or construction symbol? --Gioto (talk) 03:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Gears tend to be used for preferences/settings. How about a Python (.py) document in a compressing clamp or in a cardboard carton? The typical old icons for .tgz archives used a (clunky) c-clamp and the newer ones have a cardboard carton with a logo on the front indicating the contents. (By the way, it is a bare archive filename rather than a URL in the add-on table.)

Bamaustin (talk) 14:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

I found a tgz icon but it was not free for use. FYI the Download pages in other languages using

which probably needs to change to an icon with no word. --Gioto (talk) 23:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

>> By the way, it is a bare archive filename rather than a URL in the add-on table.)

Yes I'm aware, the idea is to get rid of the name which really serves no purpose for the normal user and to make the table more compact. --Gioto (talk) 00:05, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Agreed that a text-based download icon isn't appropriate for an international tool.

(As a personal observation of no consequence... I think downloads used to be a distinction that had importance when data transfer rates were such a big issue. We're downloading content with every click when we browse. We just store it in a temp space & discard. And it still is an issue for bulky downloads... like the Gramps installers. But these 'downloads' are smaller than most of the images. That isn't a consideration for what should be done... just an evolution that I find to be a curiosity.)

Tango SVGs are available from Wikimedia Commons. It would be a simple matter to layer a Python logo dropping into the carton with any of the free SVG editors.

Python logo

Package / carton

Bamaustin (talk) 00:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

I've discovered that there is a serious flaw in hiding the filename. When you click on these links in Chrome, the browser does a silent download. The only feedback is a progress bar In the border of the titlebar. A file is added to the downloads but the user does not know what filename to seek among the other files. If the filename isn't displayed in the table, you can't just open a download folder window next to the table and match the download.

If you found an option to collapse the column like you can hide table rows, that might be a viable option. However, Sam has replied that information hiding wasn't acceptable in other places as it created a conflict for the printable page feature. (I had suggested collapsing the Download section for each OS. My thinking was that the instructions not related to the user's OS were distracting... well, to be brutally blunt, the Linux section was been horrifyingly convoluted to the typical Win/MacOS user downloading a simple GUI-based installer. It does not make a good first impression.)