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== Definition ==
 
== Definition ==
You find a definition of an address in [[GRAMPS_Glossary#A|Glossary]], as well as for [[GRAMPS_Glossary#P|Place]]. So the address is for mailing, while the place is to indicate a point on a map. Mailing is in general not very useful for deceased people, the main focus of your research. So:
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Du findest die Definition einer Adresse im [[GRAMPS_Glossary/de#A|Glossar]], ebenso wie für einen [[GRAMPS_Glossary/de#P|Ort]]. Erklärung: Adressen sind für den Versand gedacht, während Orte einen Punkt auf der Landkarte bezeichnen. Das Versenden von Nachrichten ist bei verstorbenen Personen nicht sehr sinnvoll. Also:
  
;What is an Address?:The GRAMPS concept of an Address is a particular location with an associated time frame. Think of it as a mailing address. It is intended to represent where a person lived and when the person lived there.
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;Was ist eine Adresse?:Das GRAMPS-Konzept einer Adresse ist eine detaillierte Adresse mit einem dazugehörigem Zeitramen, als wäre es eine Postadresse. Sie beabsichtigt anzugeben wo eine Person lebte und wann die Person dort lebte.
 
   
 
   
;What is a Place?:The GRAMPS concept of a Place is a particular location independent of time. Over time, the same Place may have different address information due to changing borders and political situation. For example, Leningrad and St. Petersburg represent the same place, but with different names. GRAMPS offers the ''alternate locations'' tab in the Place Editor, allowing to enter different address information of the place.
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;Was ist ein Ort?:Das Gramps-Konzept eines Ortes ist ein einzelner Ort unabhängig von der Zeit. Ein Ort kann sich von Zeit zu Zeit Aufgrund von sich ändernden Adressinformationen oder beispielsweise Grenzänderungen ändern. z.B., Leningrad und St. Petersburg representieren den selben Ort, aber mit unterschiedlichen Namen. GRAMPS bieten den Reiter ''Alternative Ortsangaben'' im Orte-Editor an, der es ermöglicht verschiedene Adressen eines Ortes einzugeben.
 
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Apart from this, an ''event'' is important here: A defining moment in a person's life. Events can be coupled to places and are a central object in genealogy research, together with people, families and sources. They give a timeline on the life of a person, a timeline on which it is important to also indicate where a person lives.
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Unabhängig davon ist ein ''Ereignis'' hier wichtig: Ein definierter Moment im Leben einer Person. Ereignisse können mit Orten verknüpft werden und sind ein zentrales Objekt in der Ahnenforschung, zusammen mit Personen, Familien und Quellen. Sie erzeugen eine Zeitlinie im Leben einer Person, eine Zeitlinie bei der es wichtig ist zu indizieren wo eine Person lebt.
  
 
== Why residence events ?==
 
== Why residence events ?==

Revision as of 02:17, 17 May 2012

Definition

Du findest die Definition einer Adresse im Glossar, ebenso wie für einen Ort. Erklärung: Adressen sind für den Versand gedacht, während Orte einen Punkt auf der Landkarte bezeichnen. Das Versenden von Nachrichten ist bei verstorbenen Personen nicht sehr sinnvoll. Also:

Was ist eine Adresse?
Das GRAMPS-Konzept einer Adresse ist eine detaillierte Adresse mit einem dazugehörigem Zeitramen, als wäre es eine Postadresse. Sie beabsichtigt anzugeben wo eine Person lebte und wann die Person dort lebte.
Was ist ein Ort?
Das Gramps-Konzept eines Ortes ist ein einzelner Ort unabhängig von der Zeit. Ein Ort kann sich von Zeit zu Zeit Aufgrund von sich ändernden Adressinformationen oder beispielsweise Grenzänderungen ändern. z.B., Leningrad und St. Petersburg representieren den selben Ort, aber mit unterschiedlichen Namen. GRAMPS bieten den Reiter Alternative Ortsangaben im Orte-Editor an, der es ermöglicht verschiedene Adressen eines Ortes einzugeben.

Unabhängig davon ist ein Ereignis hier wichtig: Ein definierter Moment im Leben einer Person. Ereignisse können mit Orten verknüpft werden und sind ein zentrales Objekt in der Ahnenforschung, zusammen mit Personen, Familien und Quellen. Sie erzeugen eine Zeitlinie im Leben einer Person, eine Zeitlinie bei der es wichtig ist zu indizieren wo eine Person lebt.

Why residence events ?

So, what are the advantages of residence events then? Well:

  1. You can attach a place to it. This place will then be the effective address, with possible alternate locations (see the place dialog) indicating how eg this place is called today as opposed to when the event happened.
  2. You can share that place between people and families. With addresses there is no way to check if an address is already in your database - unless you remember it. That makes it unlikely to discover that two people actually lived at the same address. You can also filter on place city, eg give me all residence events that are in a place with city Berlin.
  3. Hence, you can search places and see not just what happened in a certain city, but also who lived (resided) there. That's also not possible using the 'address' system. This is a timeline of a place with all events that happened there.
  4. On a timeline of a person you can see the event and infer details, eg a person marries before or after moving to a new house.
  5. Using a place for the address allows you to use this place for other events. Eg suppose Jim marries at home, then the Marriage event can be linked to the place indicating his home, just like the Residence event does.
  6. Just like the address field, events have full time control, so time spans and periods can be used and are recognized for reports.
  7. Individual attributes on residence event are handled on Gedcom export.

What is a disadvantage:

  1. For a change in streetname, the address changes but the position on the map is the same. GRAMPS allows you to store this information in an alternate location, but alternate location has no date span, so you cannot indicate during which time frame an address for a place was in use.

Note that some researchers on the mailing list have expressed they like to store address changes in notes connected to a place, instead of in the alternate location tab. This because in general notes are exported to GEDCOM correctly and understood in other programs you might want to use the information.

It is important to note that you could use the Location event also, or make a custom event with a naming that suits you more.


Why residence events ?

So, what are the advantages of residence events then? Well:

  1. You can attach a place to it. This place will then be the effective address, with possible alternate locations (see the place dialog) indicating how eg this place is called today as opposed to when the event happened.
  2. You can share that place between people and families. With addresses there is no way to check if an address is already in your database - unless you remember it. That makes it unlikely to discover that two people actually lived at the same address. You can also filter on place city, eg give me all residence events that are in a place with city Berlin.
  3. Hence, you can search places and see not just what happened in a certain city, but also who lived (resided) there. That's also not possible using the 'address' system. This is a timeline of a place with all events that happened there.
  4. On a timeline of a person you can see the event and infer details, eg a person marries before or after moving to a new house.
  5. Using a place for the address allows you to use this place for other events. Eg suppose Jim marries at home, then the Marriage event can be linked to the place indicating his home, just like the Residence event does.
  6. Just like the address field, events have full time control, so time spans and periods can be used and are recognized for reports.
  7. Individual attributes on residence event are handled on Gedcom export.

What is a disadvantage:

  1. For a change in streetname, the address changes but the position on the map is the same. GRAMPS allows you to store this information in an alternate location, but alternate location has no date span, so you cannot indicate during which time frame an address for a place was in use.

Note that some researchers on the mailing list have expressed they like to store address changes in notes connected to a place, instead of in the alternate location tab. This because in general notes are exported to GEDCOM correctly and understood in other programs you might want to use the information.

It is important to note that you could use the Location event also, or make a custom event with a naming that suits you more.


Try it out

There is no standard method of storing addresses in GRAMPS. Try out the two methods, and use what works for you.


Import/Export

Note the following:

  • Address is not always well supported in other genealogy applications.
  • Alternate location of place used in GRAMPS is not present in many other applications. You might consider recording this in notes instead.
  • Events are supported by all programs you use, as is the default place location.