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On of the common question of new users of Gramps is whether there is a simple way to disvover the relationship and degree of separation between two Persons? | On of the common question of new users of Gramps is whether there is a simple way to disvover the relationship and degree of separation between two Persons? | ||
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| + | As with many operations in Gramps, there are many ways to do this. | ||
| + | ===Manually=== | ||
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It's not hard to do it visually on a full family tree (ie one that shows ALL the people rather than just descendant and ancestors), but difficult when the size of the tree is very large. | It's not hard to do it visually on a full family tree (ie one that shows ALL the people rather than just descendant and ancestors), but difficult when the size of the tree is very large. | ||
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Yes, there are a number of way to determine the relationship between two Persons in the Tree. | Yes, there are a number of way to determine the relationship between two Persons in the Tree. | ||
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You can make them the Active Person & then use the [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Relationship_Calculator|Relationship calculator]]. This tool is interesting because it lists the relationship conversationally. That is, it says something like "Smith, John is the great grand uncle of Weaver, Susan. Their common ancestors are Smith, Mark and Carpenter, Mary." | You can make them the Active Person & then use the [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Relationship_Calculator|Relationship calculator]]. This tool is interesting because it lists the relationship conversationally. That is, it says something like "Smith, John is the great grand uncle of Weaver, Susan. Their common ancestors are Smith, Mark and Carpenter, Mary." | ||
| − | However, the Relationship Calculator | + | However, the Relationship Calculator can also overwhelming because it lumps all the Relatives of the Active Person into an alphabetical list. So, you'll have to find a Person by name instead moving through a pedigree Tree. If the Tree is too big to keep a Pedigree snapshot in your head, you're in for some navigation awkwardness pain. You'll have to cross-reference the people you find in the Views while navigating the Tree in the List of the Relationship Calculator. |
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This is typically done by [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Setting_Home_person|designating one Person as the Home Person]] and [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Navigation#Setting_the_Active_Person|navigating the Active Person selection]] to the others as they pop up in discussion. | This is typically done by [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Setting_Home_person|designating one Person as the Home Person]] and [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Navigation#Setting_the_Active_Person|navigating the Active Person selection]] to the others as they pop up in discussion. | ||
| − | + | ===As related to the Home Person=== | |
Normally, you will have set yourself as the Home Person. But while having a conversation with someone, you will want to temporarily swap Gramps to reporting from THEIR perspective by designating THEM as Home Person. (I have a Bookmark for myself to make it easier to 'find myself' & reset the Home designation back to normal.) | Normally, you will have set yourself as the Home Person. But while having a conversation with someone, you will want to temporarily swap Gramps to reporting from THEIR perspective by designating THEM as Home Person. (I have a Bookmark for myself to make it easier to 'find myself' & reset the Home designation back to normal.) | ||
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Revision as of 21:24, 29 February 2020
On of the common question of new users of Gramps is whether there is a simple way to disvover the relationship and degree of separation between two Persons?
As with many operations in Gramps, there are many ways to do this.
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Manually
It's not hard to do it visually on a full family tree (ie one that shows ALL the people rather than just descendant and ancestors), but difficult when the size of the tree is very large.
I'm hoping to find something like:
"Yes, she's your ninth cousin seven times removed"
"He's your step-great-great-grandmother's niece-by-marriage's grandson"
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Yes, there are a number of way to determine the relationship between two Persons in the Tree.
Relationship Calculator
You can make them the Active Person & then use the [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Relationship_Calculator|Relationship calculator]]. This tool is interesting because it lists the relationship conversationally. That is, it says something like "Smith, John is the great grand uncle of Weaver, Susan. Their common ancestors are Smith, Mark and Carpenter, Mary."
However, the Relationship Calculator can also overwhelming because it lumps all the Relatives of the Active Person into an alphabetical list. So, you'll have to find a Person by name instead moving through a pedigree Tree. If the Tree is too big to keep a Pedigree snapshot in your head, you're in for some navigation awkwardness pain. You'll have to cross-reference the people you find in the Views while navigating the Tree in the List of the Relationship Calculator.
You may find it is more natural to assume your conversational subject will revolve around one person. You can put Gramps on the same conversational footing.
This is typically done by [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Setting_Home_person|designating one Person as the Home Person]] and [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Navigation#Setting_the_Active_Person|navigating the Active Person selection]] to the others as they pop up in discussion.
Normally, you will have set yourself as the Home Person. But while having a conversation with someone, you will want to temporarily swap Gramps to reporting from THEIR perspective by designating THEM as Home Person. (I have a Bookmark for myself to make it easier to 'find myself' & reset the Home designation back to normal.)
Sometimes, the subject of the conversation will be an ancestor you're mutually researching. So they would become the temporary Home Person.
Once you have set the Home Person, several options can show the Active Person's relationship to the Home Person:
Reports
Several of the reports (if I recall correctly) have an option to show the relationship to the home person -- or not.
The Complete Individual Report is generated from the Reports ➡ Text Reports ➡ Complete Individual Report... menu.
Selecting the ☑Include relationships to center person checkbox in the Include (2) tab will include relationships to the filter person (Note: Because this option makes creating reports so much slower, it is deselected by default.)
The Kinship report provides the kinship of selected person according to level search (ancestor, descendant generations) set by user.
You can choose the Kinship Report with Reports ➡ Text Reports ➡ Kinship Report...
The Status Bar:
ln the [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Display|display tab of the Preferences]], you can change the Status bar from the default of displaying the 'Active person's name and ID' to 'Relationship to home person'.
Quick Views:
Relation to Home Person quick view.
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(I haven't used this Quick View and the wiki section is a 'stub')
Gramplets:
The Deep Connections Gramplet shows indirect relationships but can be confusing for direct cousins... because the listing stops at siblings. It will not list the mutual ancestor(s). Most people want to know the shared ancestor and if you're descended from the same marriage.
See also:
- The [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Relationship_Calculator|Relationship Calculator]]
- The Relationship to home person [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Display|Display Preferences]] option for the Status bar
- Relation to Home Person [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Reports_-_part_8#Quick_Views|quick view]].
- The Deep Connections gramplet: If this third party add-on is installed, it will list the intervening generations through the sibling offspring of a common ancestor. (But it does not list the common ancestor or whether both persons are connected through the same spouse.) The Gramplet also details the indirect relationships.
- [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Filters#Relationship_filters|Relationship path filters]]
- [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Reports_-_part_6#Kinship_Report|Kinship report]]
- based on the Gramps-users archived threads:
- based on the Gramps-devel archived threads:
