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| + | It's not hard to do it visually on a full family tree (ie one that shows ALL the people, not just descendant and ancestors), but difficult when the size of the tree is very large. | ||
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| + | I'm hoping to find something like: | ||
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| + | "Yes, she's your ninth cousin seven times removed" | ||
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| + | "He's your step-great-great-grandmother's niece-by-marriage's grandson" | ||
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Yes, there are a number of way to determine the relationship between two Persons in the Tree. | Yes, there are a number of way to determine the relationship between two Persons in the Tree. | ||
| − | You can make them the Active Person & then use the Relationship calculator. This tool is interesting because it lists the relationship conversationally. That is, it says something like "Smith, John is the great grand uncle of Weaver, Susan. Their common ancestors are Smith, Mark and Carpenter, Mary." | + | You can make them the Active Person & then use the [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Relationship_Calculator|Relationship calculator]]. This tool is interesting because it lists the relationship conversationally. That is, it says something like "Smith, John is the great grand uncle of Weaver, Susan. Their common ancestors are Smith, Mark and Carpenter, Mary." |
However, the Relationship Calculator is also overwhelming because it lumps all the Relatives of the Active Person into an alphabetical list. So, you'll have to find a Person by name instead moving through a pedigree Tree. If the Tree is too big to keep a Pedigree snapshot in your head, you're in for some navigation awkwardness pain. You'll have to cross-reference the people you find in the Views while navigating the Tree in the List of the Relationship Calculator. | However, the Relationship Calculator is also overwhelming because it lumps all the Relatives of the Active Person into an alphabetical list. So, you'll have to find a Person by name instead moving through a pedigree Tree. If the Tree is too big to keep a Pedigree snapshot in your head, you're in for some navigation awkwardness pain. You'll have to cross-reference the people you find in the Views while navigating the Tree in the List of the Relationship Calculator. | ||
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| − | This is typically done by designating one Person as the Home Person and navigating the Active Person selection to the others as they pop up in discussion. | + | This is typically done by [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Setting_Home_person|designating one Person as the Home Person]] and [[navigating the Active Person selection]] to the others as they pop up in discussion. |
Normally, you will have set yourself as the Home Person. But while having a conversation with someone, you will want to temporarily swap Gramps to reporting from THEIR perspective by designating THEM as Home Person. (I have a Bookmark for myself to make it easier to 'find myself' & reset the Home designation back to normal.) | Normally, you will have set yourself as the Home Person. But while having a conversation with someone, you will want to temporarily swap Gramps to reporting from THEIR perspective by designating THEM as Home Person. (I have a Bookmark for myself to make it easier to 'find myself' & reset the Home designation back to normal.) | ||
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Sometimes, the subject of the conversation will be an ancestor you're mutually researching. So they would become the temporary Home Person. | Sometimes, the subject of the conversation will be an ancestor you're mutually researching. So they would become the temporary Home Person. | ||
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| − | + | ln the [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Display|display tab of the Preferences]], you can change the Status bar from the default of displaying thr 'Active person's name and ID' to 'Relationship to home person'. | |
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==See also:== | ==See also:== | ||
| − | * The '''[[ | + | * The '''[[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Relationship_Calculator|Relationship Calculator]]''' |
| − | * The '''Relationship to home person''' [[ | + | * The '''Relationship to home person''' [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Display|Display Preferences]] option for the Status bar |
| − | * '''Relation to Home Person''' [[ | + | * '''Relation to Home Person''' [[Gramps_{{Version manual}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Reports_-_part_8#Quick_Views|quick view]]. |
* The '''[[Deep_Connections_Gramplet|Deep Connections]]''' gramplet: If this third party add-on is installed, it will list the intervening generations through the sibling offspring of a common ancestor. (But it does not list the common ancestor or if both person a connected through the same spouse.) The Gramplet also details the indirect relationships. | * The '''[[Deep_Connections_Gramplet|Deep Connections]]''' gramplet: If this third party add-on is installed, it will list the intervening generations through the sibling offspring of a common ancestor. (But it does not list the common ancestor or if both person a connected through the same spouse.) The Gramplet also details the indirect relationships. | ||
Revision as of 17:55, 29 February 2020
Is there a simple way to input two IDs for individuals and find out what their relationship and degree is?
It's not hard to do it visually on a full family tree (ie one that shows ALL the people, not just descendant and ancestors), but difficult when the size of the tree is very large.
I'm hoping to find something like:
"Yes, she's your ninth cousin seven times removed"
"He's your step-great-great-grandmother's niece-by-marriage's grandson"
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This article's content is incomplete or a placeholder stub. |
Yes, there are a number of way to determine the relationship between two Persons in the Tree.
You can make them the Active Person & then use the [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Relationship_Calculator|Relationship calculator]]. This tool is interesting because it lists the relationship conversationally. That is, it says something like "Smith, John is the great grand uncle of Weaver, Susan. Their common ancestors are Smith, Mark and Carpenter, Mary."
However, the Relationship Calculator is also overwhelming because it lumps all the Relatives of the Active Person into an alphabetical list. So, you'll have to find a Person by name instead moving through a pedigree Tree. If the Tree is too big to keep a Pedigree snapshot in your head, you're in for some navigation awkwardness pain. You'll have to cross-reference the people you find in the Views while navigating the Tree in the List of the Relationship Calculator.
You may find it is more natural to assume your conversational subject will revolve around one person. You can put Gramps on the same conversational footing.
This is typically done by [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Setting_Home_person|designating one Person as the Home Person]] and navigating the Active Person selection to the others as they pop up in discussion.
Normally, you will have set yourself as the Home Person. But while having a conversation with someone, you will want to temporarily swap Gramps to reporting from THEIR perspective by designating THEM as Home Person. (I have a Bookmark for myself to make it easier to 'find myself' & reset the Home designation back to normal.)
Sometimes, the subject of the conversation will be an ancestor you're mutually researching. So they would become the temporary Home Person.
Once you have set the Home Person, several options can show the Active Person's relationship to the Home Person:
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The Status Bar:
ln the [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Display|display tab of the Preferences]], you can change the Status bar from the default of displaying thr 'Active person's name and ID' to 'Relationship to home person'.
Relation to Home Person quick view.
(I haven't used this Quick View and the wiki section is a 'stub')
The Deep Connections Gramplet shows indirect relationships but can be confusing for direct cousins... because the listing stops at siblings. It will not list the mutual ancestor(s). Most people want to know the shared ancestor and if you're descended from the same marriage.
See also:
- The [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Relationship_Calculator|Relationship Calculator]]
- The Relationship to home person [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Settings#Display|Display Preferences]] option for the Status bar
- Relation to Home Person [[Gramps_Template:Version manual_Wiki_Manual_-_Reports_-_part_8#Quick_Views|quick view]].
- The Deep Connections gramplet: If this third party add-on is installed, it will list the intervening generations through the sibling offspring of a common ancestor. (But it does not list the common ancestor or if both person a connected through the same spouse.) The Gramplet also details the indirect relationships.
- based on the Gramps-users archived threads:
Since most of these tutorial are likely to be inspired by a MailList discussion, a set of example 'See also' link are included for reference.
Adding a 1st link pointing to the introduction of the interface element in the wiki will relive you of the burden explaining how to find the feature.
Pointing the 2nd link to the original message that inspired the tutorial give proper credit for the idea & reveals the background discussion.
Pointing the third link to a good search phrase for the archive allows similar discussions to be explored.
Once the tutorial Preview is satisfactory, save a revision of the document. Then clean out the virtual Copy&Paste clipboard cluttering up your tutorial and save a final revision.
To remove the virtual Copy&Paste clipboard, simply delete everything from the beginning of this section to the bottom of the document. It is all disposable.
If the Copy&Paste clipboard is needed again, simply paste the following line at the end of the Edit box, Save a revision, & edit again.(Previewing isn't enough... a revision must be saved.)
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Other wiki Templates can be used as virtual Copy&Paste clipboards in the same way.
Writing a 'How do I...' article.
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